I am a fan of the Holy Post podcast. Phil Vischer (Veggie Tales) has a great conversation with Skye Jethani and Christian Taylor in this episode. The first half is worth the listen (especially Christian talking about her documentary on France in WWII), but it’s the second half of the episode that is worth the listen… and, of course, challenging. Willie James Jennings is the guest and takes on racism as a religion.

I’d highly recommend his book The Christian Imagination: Theology and the Origins of Race.